This episode offers a behind-the-scenes conversation about marriage, relocation, and leadership during a season of profound change. Sara and her husband Chris reflect on their recent wedding, international move to France, and the realities of navigating business and personal transitions at the same time. Together, they explore what self-leadership looks like when certainty is unavailable. The conversation is grounded in lived experience rather than theory.
In this episode, we explore:
- What it’s been like to get married and relocate internationally within the same season
- How compassion, routine, and spiritual practice support major life transitions
- The intentional creation of a wedding ceremony as a spiritual container
- Navigating business leadership during uncertainty and change
- Integrating inner work, self-leadership, and practical structure during upheaval
Key takeaways
- Major life transitions often require more time and compassion than expected
- Allowing all emotional and psychological responses helps metabolize change
- Strong containers—rituals, agreements, and structure—support resilience during uncertainty
- Self-leadership means staying present rather than having everything figured out
- Inner work and outer action are most effective when developed together
Resources mentioned
Episode FAQs
What is the main focus of this conversation?
This episode centers on navigating major life transitions—marriage, relocation, and professional change—while staying grounded in self-leadership and spiritual practice.
Who is this episode most helpful for?
It is most relevant for women who are leading businesses or creative work while moving through personal or professional transitions.
How do Sara and Chris describe self-leadership?
Self-leadership is described as listening inwardly, allowing all internal experiences to be present, and responding with clarity rather than control.
Does this episode offer business strategy?
Rather than tactical instruction, the episode focuses on the internal and relational foundations that support sustainable leadership and decision-making.
What makes this episode different from a typical interview?
The conversation is personal and reflective, with Chris asking questions and sharing observations from his perspective as both partner and witness.
Read the Full Transcript
What happens when you uproot your entire life, get married, move to France, and navigate major business changes within a few months? This conversation reflects on the lived reality of that season.
Sara and Chris speak openly about arriving in France, adjusting to new rhythms, and the disorientation that comes with letting go of a familiar sense of home. They describe the importance of compassion, patience, and allowing the full range of emotional responses during transition.
They discuss the intentional creation of their wedding, from early conversations about values and simplicity to designing a ceremony centered on community, spiritual grounding, and shared agreements. The ceremony itself became a container for blessings, reflection, and collective witnessing.
The conversation turns toward self-leadership and how it shows up when life feels uncertain. Rather than relying on fixed formulas, Sara describes the importance of inner listening, prayer, and staying connected to what feels true in the moment.
They also explore how business leadership changes during seasons of upheaval. Sara reflects on restructuring her core program, Self CEO, to better integrate inner work with practical business skills, emphasizing depth, community, and psychological safety.
Throughout the conversation, both reflect on the value of structure—daily routines, relationship agreements, and shared planning—alongside flexibility and trust. The episode closes with reflections on their current growing edges: learning to live more authentically day by day, staying present with uncertainty, and continuing to build a shared life with intention.
